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The Ex-Recruiter

Oct 14, 2009 / Social Media / Trackback

theexrecruiterPaul Paris, Founder & CEO of Recruiterreqs.com Inc. is inter­ested in talk­ing about employ­ment issues fac­ing peo­ple in their every­day lives from the per­spec­tive of recruiters, can­di­dates and employ­ers. Just a few years ago it would have been dif­fi­cult and costly to get these con­ver­sa­tions in to the pub­lic light unless you had a friend in Media, PR, or Mar­ket­ing. For­tu­nately, today’s access to new media gives Paul a vehi­cle to con­duct, broad­cast glob­ally and record these dialogs for any­one inter­ested in the world of employ­ment. He’s start­ing a show on BlogTalkRa­dio.

At first thought the con­cept of hav­ing con­ver­sa­tions with all the play­ers involved seems like a sim­ple no brainer. How­ever, gen­er­ally we’re so focused on our niche areas of exper­tise and pro­fes­sional intel­li­gence we tend to guard indus­try and insider infor­ma­tion closely and not think to invite oth­ers around the table for coffee.

But not Paul, that’s not his style. He plans to get can­di­dates involved and talk­ing about their job searches, recruiters about the indus­try and employ­ers about their expec­ta­tions. Chat­ting with him he said that one of his pro­fes­sional high­lights is mem­o­ries of when he was recruit­ing and would get a rush every time an appli­cant was made a job offer and accepted. He said it wasn’t just because he made money but because he had a hand in giv­ing some­one a fresh start in a posi­tion that they really wanted.

He has a lot of ques­tions to ask, kind of reminds me of Larry King’s style. Ask ques­tions, sit back, lis­ten and learn. Ques­tions like:

What has hap­pened to full life cycle recruit­ing (recruit­ing has become like a pro­duc­tion line)?
Why are can­di­dates the for­got­ten equa­tion in every­thing?
Why are peo­ple judged imme­di­ately because of what a social media pro­file says or what they look like?
Have Baby Boomers spoiled their Gen Y chil­dren to a point that most can’t find employ­ment after grad­u­a­tion because they don’t have any prior work expe­ri­ence?
Is the recruit­ing field over-saturated?
Should recruiters be cre­den­tialed (with some­thing other than SPHR or PHR) like used to have to be in NJ when it was manda­tory for recruiters to pass a state test?

Whoa… those are some heavy ques­tions for con­tem­pla­tion and dis­course. I’ve been invited to be a guest on Novem­ber 3rd to dis­cuss one of today’s hottest recruit­ing top­ics, social media v.s. pick­ing up the phone. Sounds intel­lec­tual, I like it.

When Paul started his new busi­ness he said that from day one the com­pany pledged to give a per­cent­age of earn­ings to char­i­ties help­ing peo­ple less for­tu­nate and unem­ployed. It’s posted on the recruiterreqs.com web­site that they are part of the Agents Pay­ing For­ward Net­work. Visit the site and on the related links tab you’ll find there are a num­ber of help­ful net­works for both recruiters and job seek­ers. I expect to see The Ex-Recruiter posted there very soon!

The Ex-Recruiter debuts live Octo­ber 20 at 12:00p.m. EST with a half hour intro­duc­tion. The weekly show moves to a 1 hour time slot on Octo­ber 27th from 12:00p.m. to 1:00p.m. Up and com­ing episodes fea­ture Can­di­date Uproar with guests  Jan­ice and Jeremy Wor­thing­ton, Job Search Coaches,   Gen Y advo­cate, J.T. O’Donnell and in case you didn’t catch it above, yours truly.

Good luck to Paul Paris on his new ven­ture and be sure to call in with your ques­tions and comments!



  • Lena

    To whom it may con­cern:  I am so dis­tressed in my job search that it is not a joke!!!   I always worked since I am 16, and never had prob­lem find­ing a job.  I am not a jumper and held maybe 4 jobs in my life.  I am 45 years old female, with 10+ years in mort­gage processing/underwriting field.  Before that I was since 16 in high end retail.  My life took a big twist when I was 40.  I had my own busi­ness then and went through a very rough divorce that lasted 2 years.  I lost every­thing and started to look for a job.  For the past three years I went through hell and every neg­a­tive expe­ri­ence that has to do in job search­ing.  I was sucked in in to insur­ance sales busi­ness, pass­ing 8 state exams in one year.  That did not help me work with peo­ple try­ing to sell a prod­uct to them that they need, but have no money to obtain it.  So I quit, because I just felt guilty tak­ing their last dol­lars.  My search went on.  I entered my resume prac­ti­caly on every search engine that exists.  I tried every advice, but all I was get­ting is the calls from recruiters that promissed to send my resume to an employer, and I am still wait­ing for their respond.  In send­ing over thou­sand resumes in the past 3 years  I would be called maby to 2 inter­vies and even then it would be 25 peo­ple going to one posi­tion, and they would hire a younger per­son not exactly with expe­ri­ence.
    Please let me know what a group of peo­ple age group of 45–50 sup­posed to do if they got heat by leap of fate and need to find job to sup­port them­selves?
    And, why the recruters rule today.  All search engines have out of 100 posted jobs maybe 1 or 2 are legi­t­a­mate jobs.
    I tried to approach human resources directly in dif­fer­ent com­pa­nies, but they all send you to apply on line.??????????
    And the most impor­tant how can you judge a per­sons qual­i­fi­ca­tions by read­ing a good resume.  Why you get the notice some­times within 30 min­utes that they con­sid­er­ing some­one else because they have more qual­i­fi­ca­tions.  And then 5 min­utes later a recruter calls from that same com­pany offer­ing you that job???????
    As you see I have a lot of ques­tions, and hon­estly do not know what to do.
    Please advice and help.
    My email:  [email protected]

    • http://karlaporter.com/ Karla Porter

      Lena — I feel your frus­tra­tion. I also note that in spite of your very best and dili­gent efforts, your job search has included a lot of ‘non-targeted’ activ­ity which has a very des­per­ate feel to it. Let me start by say­ing that for one human to send a thou­sand resumes in 3 years (let alone a life­time) is noth­ing short of con­found­ing, amaz­ing and sorry to say waste­ful… I don’t mean to hurt your feel­ings but blan­ket­ing the earth with resumes doesn’t give you bet­ter odds of get­ting a job.

      On another note, it is easy to email me pri­vately by click­ing on the Google ‘G’ icon at the top of the page next to ‘Who is she?’ but you chose to write all kinds of pri­vate details pub­licly — which trust me when I tell you I’m say­ing this with the best inten­tions.… leads me to believe you are too chatty about your per­sonal life dur­ing phone screens and in face-to-face inter­views, and it greatly dimin­ishes your chances.

      You are the 3rd per­son this week to com­ment to me about age.. I’m the same age and it’s bum­ming me out. I hope this atti­tude is not con­ta­gious. For pre­ven­ta­tive mea­sures I have set my car radio to a Top 40 sta­tion. Please.….…. We retire at 65. Even if you are 50 you have another 15 good years in you. Think about it, 15 years is a long time, espe­cially con­sid­er­ing the aver­age tenure on the job these days is about 36 months. That means you could have 5 more jobs before you retire. Who do you think has it harder, peo­ple with your level of expe­ri­ence or new grad­u­ates with none? May light­en­ing strike me if I’m not telling the truth, I just job offered a 64 year old guy two days ago.

      Pick 20 com­pa­nies you would like to work for that have jobs you are qual­i­fied for. Tar­get your resume to each com­pany and the posi­tion. That means make 20 resumes that con­tain the same infor­ma­tion but tai­lored to each posi­tion. research via LinkedIn, phone, Inter­net, etc., who the head of HR (or hir­ing man­ager for the depart­ment) is. Write a cover let­ter for each posi­tion to the con­tact per­son in 3 para­graphs that explain 1. Who you are (back­ground sum­mary)
      2. How you learned of the job and what you bring to the table as a solu­tion provider
      3. Why you want to work specif­i­cally for that com­pany and request an interview.

      When you apply online make sure the resume you upload is the cover let­ter page one and resume page 2/3.

      Send the let­ter via mail or email also 9research the con­tact info / email address).

      Keep the con­ver­sa­tion to busi­ness and be enthu­si­as­tic but not des­per­ate when you get a call.

      Attend inter­views with a smile, a nice con­ser­v­a­tive suit inter­view that doesn’t show too much skin
      and a scarf, pin or some other acces­sory that reflects your style, dress shoes, skip exces­sive makeup and per­fume, and keep the con­ver­sa­tion to BUSINESS — answer with exam­ples of suc­cess­ful work you have done in the past and shake hands in an busi­ness like man­ner. Col­lect a busi­ness card from each per­son, go home and write a thank you let­ter in 3 para­graphs:
      1. Thank the inter­viewer for his/her time and com­pli­ment the com­pany, team, etc.
      2. Write why you want the job / why you are the solu­tion to their empty seat.
      3. Explain why work­ing for the com­pany would be mean­ing­ful (apart from the com­pen­sa­tion) and how you look for­ward to hear­ing about next steps.

      Let me know how that works out for you.  ~Karla

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  • jan­ice­wor­thing­ton

    Hi Karla:

    Thanks so much for the men­tion. We are very excited about Paul’s show and his new site, http://recruiterreqsjobseekers.ning.com. Jeremy and I have part­nered with Paul and will be men­tor­ing to job seek­ers through var­i­ous activities

    I call it social respon­si­bil­ity and the career man­age­ment com­mu­nity has an oblig­a­tion to do what it can for dis­tressed job seek­ers. It isn’t always about $. In Colum­bus, Wor­thing­ton Career Ser­vices has offered boot­camps and triathlons fea­tur­ing HR and hir­ing man­agers, one-on-one with can­di­dates. (no ROI..but moral return… price­less!) If they’re taught how they can be of assis­tance… the employer com­mu­nity is will­ing to advise and men­tor even if they’re not hiring.

    Here is our model: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2LpH8BWuBg

    We saw the same sense of out­reach in Paul and are very excited about his crusade.

    Jan­ice Wor­thing­ton, Cer­ti­fied Job & Career Tran­si­tion Coach & Resume Writer
    Wor­thing­ton Career Ser­vices (since 1973) 1/877=9Resume
    Colum­bus, Ohio
    @execjobcoach — Jan­ice
    @jobsearchcoach — Jeremy


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