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		<title>By: hrmargomargorose</title>
		<link>http://karlaporter.com/recruiting/realistic-expectations-for-candidates#comment-229</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You clearly articulated a compelling case for the reality many of us who use social media forget: many of our colleagues don&#039;t get it, nor do they want to.  Compassion: it&#039;s so important to remember, and respect that not everyone thinks or acts the way we do.  I&#039;m a social media hound. I love it, can&#039;t get enough of it, and I use it daily for jobsearch and networking with colleagues.  It was also interested to observe the &quot;cover letter&quot; debate that took place on twitter this past week.  There was a strong, vocal group of recruiters who stated they &quot;hate&quot; cover letters.  There was a vocal group of proponents of a well written cover letter, and the positive impression a letter can make on an employer.  I found the arguments on both sides convincing.  While I&#039;m still not sure of the definitive answer, I will trust my gut.  My gut instincts tell me that if I am emailing my resume, the body of an email should be a cover letter that matches my skills to the specific requirements listed in the job description.  I carefully stayed out of that debate, honestly because I don&#039;t know the &quot;right&quot; answer.  However; I trust you Karla.  If you think cover letters are a good idea, by golly I&#039;m going to make sure I add one.  I always love your posts.  Thank you so much for being in my life, Karla.  I truly value your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You clearly articulated a compelling case for the reality many of us who use social media forget: many of our colleagues don&#39;t get it, nor do they want to.  Compassion: it&#39;s so important to remember, and respect that not everyone thinks or acts the way we do.  I&#39;m a social media hound. I love it, can&#39;t get enough of it, and I use it daily for jobsearch and networking with colleagues.  It was also interested to observe the &#8220;cover letter&#8221; debate that took place on twitter this past week.  There was a strong, vocal group of recruiters who stated they &#8220;hate&#8221; cover letters.  There was a vocal group of proponents of a well written cover letter, and the positive impression a letter can make on an employer.  I found the arguments on both sides convincing.  While I&#39;m still not sure of the definitive answer, I will trust my gut.  My gut instincts tell me that if I am emailing my resume, the body of an email should be a cover letter that matches my skills to the specific requirements listed in the job description.  I carefully stayed out of that debate, honestly because I don&#39;t know the &#8220;right&#8221; answer.  However; I trust you Karla.  If you think cover letters are a good idea, by golly I&#39;m going to make sure I add one.  I always love your posts.  Thank you so much for being in my life, Karla.  I truly value your input.</p>
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		<title>By: hrmargomargorose</title>
		<link>http://karlaporter.com/recruiting/realistic-expectations-for-candidates#comment-173</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You clearly articulated a compelling case for the reality many of us who use social media forget: many of our colleagues don&#039;t get it, nor do they want to.  Compassion: it&#039;s so important to remember, and respect that not everyone thinks or acts the way we do.  I&#039;m a social media hound. I love it, can&#039;t get enough of it, and I use it daily for jobsearch and networking with colleagues.  It was also interested to observe the &quot;cover letter&quot; debate that took place on twitter this past week.  There was a strong, vocal group of recruiters who stated they &quot;hate&quot; cover letters.  There was a vocal group of proponents of a well written cover letter, and the positive impression a letter can make on an employer.  I found the arguments on both sides convincing.  While I&#039;m still not sure of the definitive answer, I will trust my gut.  My gut instincts tell me that if I am emailing my resume, the body of an email should be a cover letter that matches my skills to the specific requirements listed in the job description.  I carefully stayed out of that debate, honestly because I don&#039;t know the &quot;right&quot; answer.  However; I trust you Karla.  If you think cover letters are a good idea, by golly I&#039;m going to make sure I add one.  I always love your posts.  Thank you so much for being in my life, Karla.  I truly value your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You clearly articulated a compelling case for the reality many of us who use social media forget: many of our colleagues don&#39;t get it, nor do they want to.  Compassion: it&#39;s so important to remember, and respect that not everyone thinks or acts the way we do.  I&#39;m a social media hound. I love it, can&#39;t get enough of it, and I use it daily for jobsearch and networking with colleagues.  It was also interested to observe the &#8220;cover letter&#8221; debate that took place on twitter this past week.  There was a strong, vocal group of recruiters who stated they &#8220;hate&#8221; cover letters.  There was a vocal group of proponents of a well written cover letter, and the positive impression a letter can make on an employer.  I found the arguments on both sides convincing.  While I&#39;m still not sure of the definitive answer, I will trust my gut.  My gut instincts tell me that if I am emailing my resume, the body of an email should be a cover letter that matches my skills to the specific requirements listed in the job description.  I carefully stayed out of that debate, honestly because I don&#39;t know the &#8220;right&#8221; answer.  However; I trust you Karla.  If you think cover letters are a good idea, by golly I&#39;m going to make sure I add one.  I always love your posts.  Thank you so much for being in my life, Karla.  I truly value your input.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by Justin_Hillier</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Justin Hillier</title>
		<link>http://karlaporter.com/recruiting/realistic-expectations-for-candidates#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Hillier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly Karla, thanks for the mention, flattered.  Nice post and I certainly do agree that not &quot;everyone&quot; is online and not everyone uses a computer and the internet for their daily job.  But I think this misses the point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Broadband penetration globally is increasing at the rate of knots, and oddly it is some of the more under-developed countries that are leading the way in take up.  Whilst you may not use the internet or a computer at work, what&#039;s to say that the people you have mentioned above do not have home computer and internet access.  After all, like most of us, we are hardly going to be able to sit at our desk and surf the major job boards for our next role during business hours.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t think the people you have mentioned above are all that common, apart from the grad student who normally wouldn&#039;t have any other use for LI, why would they.  It is a networking site for professionals, and graduates haven&#039;t started down that path yet.  So no real big surprise here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is more of a worry that the people you have mentioned above are afraid or not willing to enter the world of a simple computer or the internet.  Try as they might to avoid it, be it a morale or ethical view point, there is no denying that &quot;technology wins&quot;.  How many people have mobile phones today, Ipods instead of walkmans and how many HR people were against online job board advertising (yes still a few but we all agree they need to catch up).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Video may not be for &quot;every&quot; person.  Be it that they are truly camera shy, are not comfortable with the concept or simply feel it&#039;s not for them, however it would be foolish to deny that video has no place in candidate marketing or personal brand building.  I wrote this article recently ( &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/5aXJdX&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/5aXJdX&lt;/a&gt; ) on the hypocrisy of Employers who use video to attract and Brand and don&#039;t allow candidates to do the same.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The standard, traditional resume will never die.  The word.doc format might, as we move to digital formats like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.visualcv.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.visualcv.com&lt;/a&gt; and really nor should it.  Cover letters however are at the breaking point, you said it yourself &quot;Cover letters are a disappearing art&quot;, there is a reason for that. Video allows for more creativity to attract and &quot;imprint&quot; a candidate to an Employer, if done correctly of course.  The most important thing we need to do is be open to it, give guidelines and advice and use it as a tool in the kit bag, not as the ever lasting solution to everything.  And if done well wouldn&#039;t this make you stand out from the crowd even more?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Justin Hillier&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.socialrecruiting360.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.socialrecruiting360.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly Karla, thanks for the mention, flattered.  Nice post and I certainly do agree that not &#8220;everyone&#8221; is online and not everyone uses a computer and the internet for their daily job.  But I think this misses the point.</p>
<p>Broadband penetration globally is increasing at the rate of knots, and oddly it is some of the more under-developed countries that are leading the way in take up.  Whilst you may not use the internet or a computer at work, what&#39;s to say that the people you have mentioned above do not have home computer and internet access.  After all, like most of us, we are hardly going to be able to sit at our desk and surf the major job boards for our next role during business hours.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t think the people you have mentioned above are all that common, apart from the grad student who normally wouldn&#39;t have any other use for LI, why would they.  It is a networking site for professionals, and graduates haven&#39;t started down that path yet.  So no real big surprise here.</p>
<p>It is more of a worry that the people you have mentioned above are afraid or not willing to enter the world of a simple computer or the internet.  Try as they might to avoid it, be it a morale or ethical view point, there is no denying that &#8220;technology wins&#8221;.  How many people have mobile phones today, Ipods instead of walkmans and how many HR people were against online job board advertising (yes still a few but we all agree they need to catch up).</p>
<p>Video may not be for &#8220;every&#8221; person.  Be it that they are truly camera shy, are not comfortable with the concept or simply feel it&#39;s not for them, however it would be foolish to deny that video has no place in candidate marketing or personal brand building.  I wrote this article recently ( <a href="http://bit.ly/5aXJdX" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/5aXJdX</a> ) on the hypocrisy of Employers who use video to attract and Brand and don&#39;t allow candidates to do the same.</p>
<p>The standard, traditional resume will never die.  The word.doc format might, as we move to digital formats like <a href="http://www.visualcv.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.visualcv.com</a> and really nor should it.  Cover letters however are at the breaking point, you said it yourself &#8220;Cover letters are a disappearing art&#8221;, there is a reason for that. Video allows for more creativity to attract and &#8220;imprint&#8221; a candidate to an Employer, if done correctly of course.  The most important thing we need to do is be open to it, give guidelines and advice and use it as a tool in the kit bag, not as the ever lasting solution to everything.  And if done well wouldn&#39;t this make you stand out from the crowd even more?</p>
<p>Justin Hillier<br /><a href="http://www.socialrecruiting360.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialrecruiting360.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Owens</title>
		<link>http://karlaporter.com/recruiting/realistic-expectations-for-candidates#comment-170</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were many talented people in the buggy whip trade who could have successfully transitioned to the automotive industry but chose not to out of fear and a misplaced sense of pride and entitlement. Those who choose to ignore the realities of the current environment are dooming themselves to irrelevance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were many talented people in the buggy whip trade who could have successfully transitioned to the automotive industry but chose not to out of fear and a misplaced sense of pride and entitlement. Those who choose to ignore the realities of the current environment are dooming themselves to irrelevance.</p>
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		<title>By: alconcalcia</title>
		<link>http://karlaporter.com/recruiting/realistic-expectations-for-candidates#comment-169</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you make some very good points Karla and I am very firmly on the side of the covering letter rather than the video. I was at the Recruiting Unconference last week and a thought struck me. Yes, it is great that there are so many people who are considered gurus of social media and already looking at the way ahead, but one must always remember that for every one of them there are maybe ten or twenty who have not the slightest inkling of how to access social media, and no desire to do so, let alone use it to their advantage. I think sometimes it is easy to forget that not everyone out there wants to be social media savvy or fully wired for the web.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I fall somewhere in the middle. I am interested from a business point of view, how I can use social media to my advantage, but in many other ways I am somewhat of a technophobe. I refuse to get a phone that does anything other than answer and make phone calls, I do not have a wireless set up purely so that I cannot work on the train or in a coffee shop and I refuse point blank to ever be seen with something clipped to my ear whilst walking down the street talking to some invisible being.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The world of technology is to be marveled at, but  we&#039;re not all at the cutting edge. Equally not everyone wants to be. Yes, I will use twitter and linkedin for networking purposes and I have firm views on recruitment matters as that is the business I work in (advertising not consultancies), but, I have no desire to be out there with the big boys, eulogising on the future, positioning myself as an expert and turning my nose up at anyone who &quot;doesn&#039;t even have a computer in their home&quot;. At the same time I think it is wrong to suggest that candidates should make videos of themselves. it is unnecessary and just one more pressure on the already stressed job seeker who can often find it hard to see the wood for the trees when looking for a job. Let&#039;s not make it harder for them than it already is? Let&#039;s not give the confident ones a head start. Let them be judged as they always have been. At interview on the basis that their application was of sufficient merit (PS you can still reject the ones written in blood or made up from cuttings from newspapers. I actually wouldn&#039;t mind seeing what sort of video they would make!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you make some very good points Karla and I am very firmly on the side of the covering letter rather than the video. I was at the Recruiting Unconference last week and a thought struck me. Yes, it is great that there are so many people who are considered gurus of social media and already looking at the way ahead, but one must always remember that for every one of them there are maybe ten or twenty who have not the slightest inkling of how to access social media, and no desire to do so, let alone use it to their advantage. I think sometimes it is easy to forget that not everyone out there wants to be social media savvy or fully wired for the web.</p>
<p>I fall somewhere in the middle. I am interested from a business point of view, how I can use social media to my advantage, but in many other ways I am somewhat of a technophobe. I refuse to get a phone that does anything other than answer and make phone calls, I do not have a wireless set up purely so that I cannot work on the train or in a coffee shop and I refuse point blank to ever be seen with something clipped to my ear whilst walking down the street talking to some invisible being.</p>
<p>The world of technology is to be marveled at, but  we&#39;re not all at the cutting edge. Equally not everyone wants to be. Yes, I will use twitter and linkedin for networking purposes and I have firm views on recruitment matters as that is the business I work in (advertising not consultancies), but, I have no desire to be out there with the big boys, eulogising on the future, positioning myself as an expert and turning my nose up at anyone who &#8220;doesn&#39;t even have a computer in their home&#8221;. At the same time I think it is wrong to suggest that candidates should make videos of themselves. it is unnecessary and just one more pressure on the already stressed job seeker who can often find it hard to see the wood for the trees when looking for a job. Let&#39;s not make it harder for them than it already is? Let&#39;s not give the confident ones a head start. Let them be judged as they always have been. At interview on the basis that their application was of sufficient merit (PS you can still reject the ones written in blood or made up from cuttings from newspapers. I actually wouldn&#39;t mind seeing what sort of video they would make!)</p>
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		<title>By: shennee</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karla-&lt;br&gt;Thank you for saying, what I have been thinking!&lt;br&gt;Your kindness, and generosity is just amazing. I hold our friendship close to me,.&lt;br&gt;Thank you for helping me in so many ways, &lt;br&gt;Your friend, &lt;br&gt;Shennee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karla-<br />Thank you for saying, what I have been thinking!<br />Your kindness, and generosity is just amazing. I hold our friendship close to me,.<br />Thank you for helping me in so many ways, <br />Your friend, <br />Shennee</p>
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		<title>By: markbirch</title>
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		<description>How many job seekers even know what gatekeepers are and is it reasonable to expect they should? The answer is Yes, if they want to stand out from the crowd, especially the people that you cite in your post as they need the most help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would also state that an equally elitist attitude is to tell people that the status quo is okay because that is what people are used to. This is no time to coddle people. The real world? That is changing at a blindingly fast pace and if people do not adapt by learning new skills, then they risk losing out on opportunities.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The real truth is that the Internet is 40 years old, the HTML spec is 20 years old, and the first web based job boards started over 10 years ago. Whereas people used to go to the local newspaper to hear about job openings or through traditional networking, now they are searching corporate websites, posting their resumes on employment boards, applying online to jobs, using social media tools to enhance traditional networking.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some of the examples you mention are truly disturbing. Some of these same people are going to have a real challenge ahead of them, and I hope you are able to help them understand the risks they face and assist them in adopting these newer methods and tools. Let&#039;s be honest, there is nothing scary or complex about posting a resume on a job board. While some industries and professions are slower in the technology adoption cycle, anyone in the information knowledge arena has no excuse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Really, if someone is getting a graduate degree, is a whiz-bang spreadsheet guru, or worked at IBM, it is not unreasonable for these talented and obviously intelligent individuals to learn something new and to adopt new techniques. That would be a minimal expectation for any new hire, whether it is social media, new software, new processes, or new methods.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Harping on ways to tweak resumes and cover letters is not really helping anyone. That is not helping people to stand out from the crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many job seekers even know what gatekeepers are and is it reasonable to expect they should? The answer is Yes, if they want to stand out from the crowd, especially the people that you cite in your post as they need the most help.</p>
<p>I would also state that an equally elitist attitude is to tell people that the status quo is okay because that is what people are used to. This is no time to coddle people. The real world? That is changing at a blindingly fast pace and if people do not adapt by learning new skills, then they risk losing out on opportunities.</p>
<p>The real truth is that the Internet is 40 years old, the HTML spec is 20 years old, and the first web based job boards started over 10 years ago. Whereas people used to go to the local newspaper to hear about job openings or through traditional networking, now they are searching corporate websites, posting their resumes on employment boards, applying online to jobs, using social media tools to enhance traditional networking.</p>
<p>Some of the examples you mention are truly disturbing. Some of these same people are going to have a real challenge ahead of them, and I hope you are able to help them understand the risks they face and assist them in adopting these newer methods and tools. Let&#39;s be honest, there is nothing scary or complex about posting a resume on a job board. While some industries and professions are slower in the technology adoption cycle, anyone in the information knowledge arena has no excuse.</p>
<p>Really, if someone is getting a graduate degree, is a whiz-bang spreadsheet guru, or worked at IBM, it is not unreasonable for these talented and obviously intelligent individuals to learn something new and to adopt new techniques. That would be a minimal expectation for any new hire, whether it is social media, new software, new processes, or new methods.</p>
<p>Harping on ways to tweak resumes and cover letters is not really helping anyone. That is not helping people to stand out from the crowd.</p>
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